I’ll be using the tarp again next weekend in the Peak District and will hope for some reasonable weather. I’ve beefed up the four corner pegs to make sure it stays put and have replaced the two end guys with reflective ones (courtesy of backpackinglight.co.uk ) Such nice people to deal with. I also ordered a head mozzie net and they threw in a tiny bottle opener and Outdoors Station mp3 CD. I also got a Gossamer Gear Polycryo groundsheet from winwood-outdoor to replace my usual space blankets. It should be more durable. I also want to get a bivy bag from Alpkit but unfortunately they’re out of stock.
For winter use, I’m thinking of a tent, not necessarily ultra-lightweight, but still light. Contenders are an Akto and various others but also the Warmlite which a couple of fellow-bloggers have. My main question which hasn’t been answered yet is whether I can cook inside it with my Trangia. If not, how do Warmlite owners manage to cook? Even with, say, gas-fuelled stoves, what happens if it gets knocked over inside? Cooking outside when it’s pouring down is not on.
Be very very careful about cooking in an enclosed space. Meths stoves give out a lot of carbon monoxide. Many gas stoves are nearly as bad. The best stoves for low carbon monoxide are the Primus Eta stoves and the Snow Peak GS(T)100. If you subscribe to backpackinglight.com you can get the full details (they are quite shocking) http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/stoves_tents_carbon_monoxide_pt_4.html
By: blogpackinglight on January 8, 2008
at 6:45 pm
Geoff, you thought about a Hex3 or the Shanghrala (sp?) 3 as it is now known?
By: whitespider1066 on January 8, 2008
at 6:50 pm
Good luck for the tarping on the weekend! Hope it’s more comfortable than the last trip, with the new mods that you’ve made.
Regarding the meths stove issue, as I’ve just posted on the OM thread, the nylon floor issue could potentially be dealt with by using a square of thermawrap sort of material, which is both very light and fairly flameproof. That just leaves the fumes issue…
We use a gas stove. I have used it inside of Wendy and on the pitches so far stability hasn’t been an issue. I guess that if we did burn a hole in the floor (assuming that we didn’t burn the whole tent down at the same time…) then that’d be where the spare patch of fabric that Warmlite provided would come in!!
By: Gayle on January 8, 2008
at 10:00 pm
iam, hoping to get out with the tarp in a couple of weekends time.Hope you have a good trip
By: mike pitt on January 8, 2008
at 10:25 pm
Hi Geoff
I think when using the Warmilte, you can cook inside uite sfely as there is quite a bit of ventilation built into the tent – the rear bottom and the front bottom vents act as the air intakes and the top front vent is the extract vent. With your body heat and the heat from the stove, there is more than enough driving force to run the ‘chimney effect’ for the tent.
Having said that, I would not want to cook with a meths powered Trangia because of the fumes – not the CO2 emmissions. However, I understand that these can be a problem too, so I would definitley go with the gas cartridge stove – whether it be a normal one or a modified Trangia version.
I limit the use of the stove on the tent anyway as the stove is never on for more than a few minutes because of the cooking system I use – I just boil a kettle of water (with a lid) and tip it into my Real Expedition Food pouches and mug for my soup starter.
Later on I will have another brew for hot chocolate laced with whisky for a nightcap.
Doing this will limit CO2 build up and condensation porblems as well. It worked brilliantly fro me over my four month LEJOG.
Good luck with you choices,
Alan
By: alan.sloman on January 10, 2008
at 8:18 pm